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Coffices–Coffee Shops for Working

Author Jon Reiss works at Gimme! Coffee.

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Walk into a coffee shop in Brooklyn on a weekday morning and you might think you’re walking onto the set of a Macbook commercial, minus the cameras and lighting crew. Brooklyn is home to a huge mobile workforce of freelancers and people cobbling together several part-time gigs, and our coffee shops are filled with the accoutrements of the nomadic worker — laptops, cell phones and lattes.

There are plenty of coffee shops with wifi in Brooklyn, but not all of them are created equal. A place might have fast dependable internet, but nowhere to plug your computer in and bad coffee to boot. Another might have great coffee, wifi, and lots of outlets, but insufferable service and no light. One day, there will be full blown coffices, specifically designed for workers on the go with all the fixtures, plus printers, copiers, fax machines and sleep pods. (Check out our round-up of shared workspaces around Brooklyn that almost fit that bill.) Until then, we bring you a list of some of the best places in Brooklyn to sit and work and sip.

The Criteria: Coffices were judged on a scale of 1-5 in five major categories: Vibe, Layout/Aesthetic, Wifi, Outlets and Coffee, with a potential extra point available for good food. Things like friendliness, comfort, lighting, space, outdoor seating and other small considerations generally fall into one of the first two categories. Wifi was measured by a series of speed and reliability tests and both coffee and espresso (if applicable) were tasted at each venue. Those that lacked in any categories: had no wifi, charged for wifi, had nowhere to plug in, or had terrible coffee, were disqualified.

This is by no means a complete list–add your favorite coffice in the comments.

*Bushwick*

The Archive Café was the top-rated Bushwick coffice coming in with 19 points, but sadly, it closed a few weeks ago.

Boulevard Café, 253 Bushwick Ave., 718-281-2442

Vibe: 2.5
Unfortunately there’s a lack of polish that takes away from the experience. There’s no edgy charm here, it just feels sort of seedy.

Layout/Aesthetic: 3
Lacking style. Its saving grace is the beautiful outdoor seating area that’s almost always quiet.

Wifi: 2.5
Not particularly dependable and often slow.

Outlets: 3.5
Good show outlet-wise. Except for the outside there is really nowhere you can sit that isn’t close to an outlet.

Coffee: 2.5. Coffee here is just okay. The espresso is Danesi, the standard in European cafés, which is usually pretty terrible, so they get points for making it pretty palatable.

+1 for well-priced, delicious and varied food.

Total: 15
Boulevard has a lot going for it, but is in need of a re-design and better coffee.

*Fort Greene/Clinton Hill*

Tillie’s of Brooklyn, 248 Dekalb, 718-783-6140

Vibe: 4.5
Tillie’s has a bustling, collaborative feeling. It’s a large shop with varied seating and there are always a lot of people working, meeting and chatting. It has a true neighborhood vibe.

Aesthetic: 3.5
Tillie’s feels sort of college coffeeshop like, in a really nice way. It’s not a design marvel, but it’s very comfy.

Outlets: 2.5
The main floor doesn’t really have any outlets, definitely a low point.

Wifi: 3
Can be slow when crowded.

Coffee: 3.5
Solidly good, and organic, but not spectacular. A good iced coffee and nice selection of teas and smoothies for non-caffeine fiends.

+1 Lots of good snacks here, including veggie and vegan fare.

Total: 18
Tillie’s offers more variety all around than most places, with a large menu, lots of different seating, including outdoor spots, and a warm, inviting feeling. It can get a little noisy since people often meet up to chat, but it all blends together in non-distracting way and you often see people reading or studying, in addition to the ubiquitous laptops.

Urban Vintage, 294 Grand Ave., 718-783-6045

Vibe: 4
Part coffee shop, part antique shop, it has a sophisticated, but friendly and relaxing feel.

Aesthetic/Layout: 4 for look, 2 for work functionality
The aesthetic is totally beautiful. The layout doesn’t maximize workspace, but that’s not the point. Gorgeous, and comfortable.

Outlets: 2
Not a ton.

Wifi: 3
Solidly good.

Coffee: 4
Urban Vintage uses Brooklyn’s own Crop to Cup and they do the fair trade brew justice.

+1 Muffins, pastries and sandwiches.

Total: 18 overall, 16 for working
Lovely, peaceful and comfortable, but only if it remains uncrowded. Not designed to be a regular spot for lots of freelancers. Go and chat with a friend instead.

*Greenpoint*

Boneshakers, 34 Kingsland Ave., 718-963-0656

Vibe: 4
Punk rock, vegan, bike vibe all the way, but there’s no attitude to go along with it. Good music and comfy seats. No one is going to stink-eye you for sitting and working.

Aesthetic: 4
Again, very cool, bikes and punk but with a bit of euro-coffee shop thing going on as well.

Wifi: 3
A mixed bag, but more often smooth and fast than not.

Outlets: 3
This area could use work. Some middle tables are without available outlets, but still, it’s better than most.

Coffee: 3.5
Boneshakers brews Gimme! Coffee beans and although it’s nowhere near as good as at Gimme! itself, still better than most other beans.

+1, for the incredible veggie-wiches, varied and creatively named. Try “The Make Out Party.”

Total: 17.5
There’s a hard to describe cool feeling that comes with sitting at Boneshakers. They meet pretty much all the criteria and make for a great place to sit and work.

Café Grumpy, 193 Meserole Ave., 718-349-7623

Vibe: 3.5
The people are usually extra nice, there is a variety of seating and the place is spacious with good music played low. When asked for a cup of water, the barista pointed toward a pitches of water with cups beside it and then said, “Would you like a bigger cup or some ice?”

Aesthetic: 4
There’s just something refreshing about Grumpy. Its look is conducive to focus.

Wifi: 3
The wifi here is not the greatest, it’s fast, but cuts out from time to time.

Outlets: 3.5
Most sections of Grumpy have outlets readily available, however there are a few places you can sit and have no plug access.

Coffee: 3.5
Grumpy’s coffee is a major plus. On a good day the drip coffee is some of the best around, but it can be variable.

Total: 18
Another piece of the beautiful puzzle that Greenpoint is turning out to be. The vibe, the coffee, the warmth all make Grumpy worth a walk out of your way.

Champion Coffee, 1108 Manhattan Ave., 718-383-5195 (Ed. noteOwner Talitha Whidbee is a friend of BB, so yes, we’re biased, but this is some of the best coffee around with a great backyard.)

Vibe: 3
A small shop that can be crowded, especially in the winter when the backyard isn’t an option. Lots of other folks working here, but because they’re esspresso-only the grinder can be loud.

Aesthetic: 3
Clean and modern looking inside, large and leafy backyard that has smoking and non-smoking sections and a patch of grass.

Wifi: 2
Mostly dependable, but not super fast. Champion is great when you’re on deadline and need discouragement from internet procrastination.

Outlets: 4
You may need to ask your neighbor if you can plug in, but every inside table and several outdoor tables have easy access to an outlet.

Coffee: 5
Champion is espresso only, no drip. They use Cafe Vita beans from Seattle–they briefly switched to Stumptown and then promptly changed back when customers complained.

+1 They make simple sandwiches and salads and the baked goods are addictively good, especially the mint chocolate cookie.

Total: 18
Champion can get crowded, and it’s on the far end of Greenpoint, but it’s laptop ready and the backyard is a serious plus. The one problem is that once you start drinking their Americanos no other caffeine delivery system will seem as good.

*Park Slope*

Gorilla Coffee, 97 5th Ave., 718-320-2344

Vibe: 2
The baristas weren’t all that nice. A good test of niceness is to ask for a cup of water on a hot day. Here, they reluctantly handed us a small plastic cup of lukewarm water. The place is terribly crowded and uncomfortable.

Aesthetic: 3
The red and black color scheme and the logo gives Gorilla a sort of Shepard Fairey vibe. The maps on the wall add a bit of depth, but the tables are situated in a such a way that you’re likely to be saying a lot of “excuse me’s.”

Wifi: 3
The wifi here gets incredibly fast but cuts out from time to time. Still, it’s better than most.

Outlets: 2.5
There’s an outlet for every row of three tables, which isn’t sufficient for the crowd. There are no outlets for the front window seats either.

Coffee: 3.5
The best thing about Gorilla. Always very strong and the iced coffee is excellent.

Total: 14
Hard to imagine as a regular coffice. Sufficient for a quick email check, and good for a cup-to-go.

Root Hill Café, 262 4th Ave., 718-797-0100

Vibe: 3.5
There’s a general laid back feeling; people aren’t in your face and work seems to be encouraged. Varied and interesting reading material is also available.

Layout/Aethetic: 4
Cool green trim, slanted wood floors, and cushioned seating areas. All around the place was very comfortable and roomy. It’s an extremely well-designed place and the outdoor seating in the front is fantastic and dog friendly.

Wifi: 2
It seems somewhat reliable, but slow at a mere .72mbps.

Outlets: 5
Root Hill Cafe has one of the best outlet situations that I’ve seen. All other coffee shops should take note–perfect.

Coffee: 2.5
Middle of the road. Good enough for a first cup in the morning, but it doesn’t deliver as the second, “get down to work” cup.

Total: 17
Park Slope’s best. Root Hill makes a case for how much of a plus an up to date magazine selection can be. They need to step up their bean game.

*Williamsburg*

Atlas Café, 116 Havenmeyer St.,  718-782-7470

Vibe: 2
Atlas is often crowded with hard-working people, which can be infectious and good for productivity. However, crowding is an issue. For some reason they don’t allow laptops outside and considering the overcrowding, this is a big mistake. They will come out and yell at you if you try to set up shop in the sun.

Layout/Aesthetic: 3
It’s a pretty straight-forward, cool coffee place with a general cabin in the woods type theme. Not stunning, but not distracting.

Wifi: 4
The wifi is excellent at Atlas, lightning fast. Occasionally there’s a connectivity problem but it works most of the time.

Outlets: 3
It can be a struggle to plug in here. Power strips are scattered around to remedy the problem, but somehow it’s still always a challenge.

Coffee: 3
The coffee here at Atlas is better than okay and much better than deli coffee.

+1 People come to Atlas exclusively to buy baguettes and croissants. Their sandwiches and salads are also quite good.

Total: 16
Atlas does play the coffee shop game well, packing the house while other places in the area are veritably empty. However, the overcrowding is a real issue, and their rules about laptops at outdoor tables are extremely frustrating. The baristas can be prickly, too.

Gimme! Coffee, 495 Lorimer St., 718-388-7771

Vibe: 4.5
A great place to work. The baristas are friendly and helpful, the music is good and not too loud and the whole place is generally very laid back.

Layout/Aesthetic: 4
Simple and straight-forward. Set up so that there’s lots of seating, but no overcrowding.

Wifi: 3
Pretty good. It’s better than average, but it occasionally doesn’t work which can usually be remedied by a re-boot. Speed-wise it’s among the better places with a steady 2mbps instead of the high-speed then suddenly no-speed situation that happens at a lot of other places.

Outlets: 1.5
This is Gimme’s downfall. The place has two outlets.

Coffee: 5
Gimme’s coffee is the lynchpin. It’s the richest, most flavorful coffee of any of place on the list. Try the Americano with an extra shot.

+.5, The baked goods from Balthazar aren’t very breakfast-worthy, but Gimme! now serves delicious salted caramel macaroons from a local baker, Danny Macaroons. They are also totally laid back about bringing in your own food, which is a huge plus.

Total: 18.5 Gimme! is one of the top contenders, even as a place not really intended as a work spot, it’s one of the best in Brooklyn, and if coffee is what’s most important on your list, you needn’t look further.

Second Stop Café, 524 Lorimer St., 718-486-6850

Vibe: 2
When working in coffee shops it’s important to spend according to your time spent there–it’s a matter of courtesy. However, you will feel guilty for being here no matter what you buy. It’s a huge shame since the seating and layout are so well done. Prices are also a bit steep.

Aesthetic: 4
Very cool look and layout. The outdoor seating gives it a huge boost and it’s one of the few places where you can bring your dog to sit and work. The tables are well-spaced, varied and comfortable and the aesthetic is sort of pioneer kitsch, in a cool way.

Wifi: 3.5
Solid wifi. Pretty much the same as speed and reliability as Gimme! (right across the street) if not slightly more reliable.

Outlets: 3.5
Very few spots at Second Stop are far from an outlet.

Coffee: 2
Just because a place carries good coffee beans, doesn’t mean they have good coffee. The machine being used and the person making the coffee can have incredible bearing on how it turns out. They carry Stumptown Coffee, which is an indie-coffee darling these days, but tends to be a bit overrated. Stumptown is designed to be brewed and prepared in a very particular manner. This doesn’t always happen and iced coffees here tend to be a bit sour.

+1, some of the best muffins in town–try the donut muffin.

Total: 16
Second Stop is a well-designed, great place to sit with some serious attitude issues.

Variety, 368 Graham Ave.,  347-599-2351

Vibe: 3.5
Music isn’t too loud and people are nice, but Variety is another place with an overcrowding issue.

Layout/Aesthetic: 3.5
Dark, modern and to the point. It has a slight neo-southern transplant, Johnny Cash thing going on.

Outlets: 3
Variety has a fair amount of outlets but there is a definite need for more, especially in certain far-off sections.

Wifi: 2
The wifi here is the best example of the “super fast, then squat” variety. At first it seems like the greatest place to work, then suddenly, you’re in the middle of something important and stranded on no-internet island.

Coffee: 2
The coffee is seriously disappointing, a mere step above deli coffee. Bland, and weak with a jarring aftertaste.

Total: 14
Variety looks like a place that should have great coffee, but they don’t. New beans, and better wifi would put this place among the best of the bunch.

Text by Jon Reiss, sent by Annaliese. Photos courtesy of Jon Reiss.

Posted on 09/27/10
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  • http://twitter.com/sahadeva Sahadeva Hammari

    It would be rad if these were on a Google map.

    • http://brooklynbased.net Nicole @ BB

      Agreed. We need an intern.

      • Ben

        http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=
        114361140033571725721.00049316eaf4e49db10a1 i will accept my thanks in the form of coffee gift cards to all the places listed

        • Ben

          oops didnt like my link : http://bit.ly/bruUAj

          • http://www.heyexit.com/ Brendan Landis

            This is fabulous. Would you mind if I added the “reviews” for each shop to the map items?

  • http://twitter.com/sahadeva Sahadeva Hammari

    It would be rad if these were on a Google map.

    • http://brooklynbased.net Nicole @ BB

      Agreed. We need an intern.

      • Ben

        http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=
        114361140033571725721.00049316eaf4e49db10a1 i will accept my thanks in the form of coffee gift cards to all the places listed

        • Ben

          oops didnt like my link : http://bit.ly/bruUAj

          • http://www.heyexit.com/ Brendan Landis

            This is fabulous. Would you mind if I added the “reviews” for each shop to the map items?

          • http://twitter.com/omeryariv Omer Yariv

            I just released a

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12400043 Ben Moss

            Awesome! I’m glad to see after all these months it’s still getting used :)

  • Lisa Cowan

    My two favorites: Joyce, in Prospect Heights – great coffee, great vibe, good wifi, but they covered the outlets…

    Building on Bond in Boerum Hill – great vibe, good outlets, good wifi, OK coffee – my personal best.

  • Lisa Cowan

    My two favorites: Joyce, in Prospect Heights – great coffee, great vibe, good wifi, but they covered the outlets…

    Building on Bond in Boerum Hill – great vibe, good outlets, good wifi, OK coffee – my personal best.

    • glib

      huh…wonder why they covered the outlets…

  • Lisa Cowan

    My two favorites: Joyce, in Prospect Heights – great coffee, great vibe, good wifi, but they covered the outlets…

    Building on Bond in Boerum Hill – great vibe, good outlets, good wifi, OK coffee – my personal best.

    • glib

      huh…wonder why they covered the outlets…

  • J Kim

    Mule on 4th Ave. was great. It is still vacant. Should be brought back.

  • J Kim

    Mule on 4th Ave. was great. It is still vacant. Should be brought back.

  • Willburg Will

    I second your thumbs-up review of Boneshakers! Great space, good vibe, terrific music (and usually not too loud), great coffee, and those unique and delectable sandwiches. The best.

    • Krissaann

      BoneShakers is amazing but I occasionally find the baristas to be a little too cool for school.

  • Willburg Will

    I second your thumbs-up review of Boneshakers! Great space, good vibe, terrific music (and usually not too loud), great coffee, and those unique and delectable sandwiches. The best.

    • Krissaann

      BoneShakers is amazing but I occasionally find the baristas to be a little too cool for school.

  • Karen

    Outpost in Clinton Hill should be added to this list!

    • http://brooklynbased.net Nicole @ BB

      it’s funny you should say that. BB had a staff meeting at Outpost on Friday + couldn’t get online. We saw friends there too who spent a half hour trying to log on before they were successful. So, love the space (I’m down the street!) and have worked there successfully in the past, but questionable wifi.

      • dahlia

        Outpost had internet issues because of the tornado, which knocked down their lines! I’d expect that ti’d be back up, but it’s likely cablevision’s fault, not theirs

    • Bekah

      Outpost would rule this list if its Wi-Fi were reliable. :/ Their tomato-mozarella panini is delectable.

  • Karen

    Outpost in Clinton Hill should be added to this list!

    • http://brooklynbased.net Nicole @ BB

      it’s funny you should say that. BB had a staff meeting at Outpost on Friday + couldn’t get online. We saw friends there too who spent a half hour trying to log on before they were successful. So, love the space (I’m down the street!) and have worked there successfully in the past, but questionable wifi.

      • dahlia

        Outpost had internet issues because of the tornado, which knocked down their lines! I’d expect that ti’d be back up, but it’s likely cablevision’s fault, not theirs

    • Bekah

      Outpost would rule this list if its Wi-Fi were reliable. :/ Their tomato-mozarella panini is delectable.

  • Jayne A Sendrowitz

    Red Horse Cafe in Park Slope!

  • Jayne A Sendrowitz

    Red Horse Cafe in Park Slope!

  • jobless

    red horse cafe down in the south end of the slope is my go to work spot.
    grumpy’s has better coffee, but the one in the slope has a no laptop policy

  • jobless

    red horse cafe down in the south end of the slope is my go to work spot.
    grumpy’s has better coffee, but the one in the slope has a no laptop policy

  • Krissaann

    Cafe grumpy is amazing for working. They have tons of space and no one will bother you. Ever.

  • getanofficeorstayhome

    The Archive Café was the top-rated Bushwick coffice coming in with 19 points, but sadly, it closed a few weeks ago.”

    Probably because so many people came to use the space as an office and NOT buy anything other than one cup of coffee.

    Meanwhile real customers can’t a seat.

  • getanofficeorstayhome

    The Archive Café was the top-rated Bushwick coffice coming in with 19 points, but sadly, it closed a few weeks ago.”

    Probably because so many people came to use the space as an office and NOT buy anything other than one cup of coffee.

    Meanwhile real customers can’t a seat.

  • Krissaann

    Cafe grumpy is amazing for working. They have tons of space and no one will bother you. Ever.

  • wburg

    I agree about Variety — there’s never anywhere to sit, and the coffee is always strangely disappointing. It’s technically a pie shop, but I’ve been going to The Blue Stove down the street instead recently.

  • wburg

    I agree about Variety — there’s never anywhere to sit, and the coffee is always strangely disappointing. It’s technically a pie shop, but I’ve been going to The Blue Stove down the street instead recently.

  • Julia

    new great spot to work in Williamsburg: House of Small Wonder on Skillman between Union and Lorimer. Always seats, good free wifi. Good coffee, homemade croissants and nice cozy decor.

  • Julia

    new great spot to work in Williamsburg: House of Small Wonder on Skillman between Union and Lorimer. Always seats, good free wifi. Good coffee, homemade croissants and nice cozy decor.

  • Matsidudow

    How about a criteria for breakfast sandwiches? I always liked Naidre’s and Ted & Honey in Cobble Hill/Carroll Gardens for that reason. Can’t start your work day without an egg&cheese.

  • Matsidudow

    How about a criteria for breakfast sandwiches? I always liked Naidre’s and Ted & Honey in Cobble Hill/Carroll Gardens for that reason. Can’t start your work day without an egg&cheese.

  • bklyncurls

    Building on Bond, Bond St. and Pacific St.

    Flying Saucer, Atlantic Ave. between Bond and Nevins

    Clover Cafe, Atlantic between Hoyt and Bond

    Fall Cafe, Smith St. between Union and Carroll

    • http://twitter.com/cnewvine Colleen Newvine

      Thanks for the love for Cobble Hill/Boerum Hill!
      I think I’ve only been to Clover of the four on your list so I clearly need to explore more.

      • Bekah

        Building on Bond is a MUST.

        • Kate

          I go to Fall Cafe at least once a week to do my private work. When I have to meet with a friend or colleague I go to Flying Saucer which is quite spacious and we feel like we’re not disturbing people when we talk. Building on Bond generally has poor outlet availability, but has good bagels. Still, it’s often packed by 8 in the morning…

        • Kate

          I go to Fall Cafe at least once a week to do my private work. When I have to meet with a friend or colleague I go to Flying Saucer which is quite spacious and we feel like we’re not disturbing people when we talk. Building on Bond generally has poor outlet availability, but has good bagels. Still, it’s often packed by 8 in the morning…

  • bklyncurls

    Building on Bond, Bond St. and Pacific St.

    Flying Saucer, Atlantic Ave. between Bond and Nevins

    Clover Cafe, Atlantic between Hoyt and Bond

    Fall Cafe, Smith St. between Union and Carroll

    • http://twitter.com/cnewvine Colleen Newvine

      Thanks for the love for Cobble Hill/Boerum Hill!
      I think I’ve only been to Clover of the four on your list so I clearly need to explore more.

      • Bekah

        Building on Bond is a MUST.

        • Kate

          I go to Fall Cafe at least once a week to do my private work. When I have to meet with a friend or colleague I go to Flying Saucer which is quite spacious and we feel like we’re not disturbing people when we talk. Building on Bond generally has poor outlet availability, but has good bagels. Still, it’s often packed by 8 in the morning…

  • hannah

    Little Skips in Bushwick! They are so awesome! Counter culture coffee, plenty of wifi.

  • hannah

    Little Skips in Bushwick! They are so awesome! Counter culture coffee, plenty of wifi.

  • allison

    No love for Red Hook? Baked has great food, coffee, and is popular with the laptop crowd.

    • Juli

      they do rate high on most of the criteria, but their wifi is so weak it is basically nonexistent most days.

      • allison

        that’s a problem! I haven’t heard complaints about that, but my husband hasn’t been going there lately (in hind sight, maybe that’s why…) .

  • allison

    No love for Red Hook? Baked has great food, coffee, and is popular with the laptop crowd.

    • Juli

      they do rate high on most of the criteria, but their wifi is so weak it is basically nonexistent most days.

      • allison

        that’s a problem! I haven’t heard complaints about that, but my husband hasn’t been going there lately (in hind sight, maybe that’s why…) .

  • http://twitter.com/MegKramer Meg Kramer

    Nero Doro in Clinton Hill (Classon & Greene) is quiet on weekdays and has reliable wifi.

  • http://twitter.com/MegKramer Meg Kramer

    Nero Doro in Clinton Hill (Classon & Greene) is quiet on weekdays and has reliable wifi.

  • Nina100

    Second Stop is so cool looking but the last 3 coffees i got there were SO bad…they cannot make a cappuccino to save their life, and at that price you expect a good cup… not going back again.

  • Nina100

    Second Stop is so cool looking but the last 3 coffees i got there were SO bad…they cannot make a cappuccino to save their life, and at that price you expect a good cup… not going back again.

  • modefier

    Nice post, but: Is there anywhere that _doesn’t_ have music? I can’t be alone in being unable to get real work done with someone’s Ipod playing over the speakers. Suggestions?

    • photoguy

      this happens at Cafe Orwell in Bushwick. employees seem to think it’s their own private listening
      room, and crank the music waaaay too loud. loud punk in a coffee shop? really. how can anyone relax and enjoy a nice cup of coffee this way? it’s a great space, but the owner needs to get more control over ambiance.

    • guest

      i think most libraries frown on excessive noise. actually, i believe they are intended for quiet, cerebral pursuits.

    • Barista

      A place that doesn’t have music and is FREE is a little place i discovered recently called the PUBLIC LIBRARY. There are several libraries all over the city that are FREE to all of us and don’t play music and don’t care if you sit ALL DAY. Added bonus is that the library also has books for you to read if you need to take a break from all that hard work you are putting in at your “coffice”.

      I am disgusted by those of you who feel so entitled to sit in a place of business for hours on end and the have the nerve to comment on the staff’s attitude towards you. We don’t like you, we don’t have to be nice to you because to us you are not a valuable customer.

      We have a thing in the coffee world for people like you…its called decaf. sorry but that might be what you’ve been getting and is perhaps why you aren’t getting any work done. Or perhaps you aren’t getting any work done because you are too busy chatting with the other people in your “coffice” who like to treat our coffee shop like your living room.

      I have a feeling that those of you who use the term “coffice” like it’s cute also use the word “staycation”. go home or go to the library…or dare i say it? get a job.

  • modefier

    Nice post, but: Is there anywhere that _doesn’t_ have music? I can’t be alone in being unable to get real work done with someone’s Ipod playing over the speakers. Suggestions?

    • photoguy

      this happens at Cafe Orwell in Bushwick. employees seem to think it’s their own private listening
      room, and crank the music waaaay too loud. loud punk in a coffee shop? really. how can anyone relax and enjoy a nice cup of coffee this way? it’s a great space, but the owner needs to get more control over ambiance.

    • guest

      i think most libraries frown on excessive noise. actually, i believe they are intended for quiet, cerebral pursuits.

    • Barista

      A place that doesn’t have music and is FREE is a little place i discovered recently called the PUBLIC LIBRARY. There are several libraries all over the city that are FREE to all of us and don’t play music and don’t care if you sit ALL DAY. Added bonus is that the library also has books for you to read if you need to take a break from all that hard work you are putting in at your “coffice”.

      I am disgusted by those of you who feel so entitled to sit in a place of business for hours on end and the have the nerve to comment on the staff’s attitude towards you. We don’t like you, we don’t have to be nice to you because to us you are not a valuable customer.

      We have a thing in the coffee world for people like you…its called decaf. sorry but that might be what you’ve been getting and is perhaps why you aren’t getting any work done. Or perhaps you aren’t getting any work done because you are too busy chatting with the other people in your “coffice” who like to treat our coffee shop like your living room.

      I have a feeling that those of you who use the term “coffice” like it’s cute also use the word “staycation”. go home or go to the library…or dare i say it? get a job.

  • Senor Wences

    “Coffice” is the worst coinage I’ve ever heard of. Stop it right now, because it makes you look stupid.

    • http://brooklynbased.net Nicole @ BB

      I will, as soon as you stop using the handle “Senor Wences”

  • Senor Wences

    “Coffice” is the worst coinage I’ve ever heard of. Stop it right now, because it makes you look stupid.

    • http://brooklynbased.net Nicole @ BB

      I will, as soon as you stop using the handle “Senor Wences”

  • Fotoboothgirl

    MY FAVES: Crown Heights: Breukelen on Franklin between St Johns Pl & Sterling Pl, Glassshop on Classon (between Park Pl & Sterling Pl) , Prospect Heights/Crown: Sit and Wonder on Washington Ave (near corner of St Marks), Clinton Hill: Outpost Cafe on Fulton (between Grand Ave & Downing St)

  • Fotoboothgirl

    MY FAVES: Crown Heights: Breukelen on Franklin between St Johns Pl & Sterling Pl, Glassshop on Classon (between Park Pl & Sterling Pl) , Prospect Heights/Crown: Sit and Wonder on Washington Ave (near corner of St Marks), Clinton Hill: Outpost Cafe on Fulton (between Grand Ave & Downing St)

  • http://twitter.com/dahlshouse Dahlia

    Smooch! Great coffee, great food, free wi-fi that they’ll troubleshoot if you can’t get online (they’ve restarted the router upon request many times), outlets, good tables for working, and friendly staff. Just don’t try and work on the weekends – much busier then, but great during weekdays. And second Outpost (though I don’t think their coffee is great) and Sit and Wonder (great coffee, and muffins from Blue Sky). Which reminds me, Blue Sky is pretty good too, though busy during morning rush hour and only open until ~2pm.

  • http://twitter.com/dahlshouse Dahlia

    Smooch! Great coffee, great food, free wi-fi that they’ll troubleshoot if you can’t get online (they’ve restarted the router upon request many times), outlets, good tables for working, and friendly staff. Just don’t try and work on the weekends – much busier then, but great during weekdays. And second Outpost (though I don’t think their coffee is great) and Sit and Wonder (great coffee, and muffins from Blue Sky). Which reminds me, Blue Sky is pretty good too, though busy during morning rush hour and only open until ~2pm.

  • Monica

    At Home/Made, in Red Hook, we just started opening for coffee in the morning!
    We’re open at 7am, serving Kitten Coffee (roasted in Bushwick, rainforest alliance certified, and yummy!). We have freshly baked scones, biscuits, and other treats, plus the comfy couch. Free wifi too.

  • Monica

    At Home/Made, in Red Hook, we just started opening for coffee in the morning!
    We’re open at 7am, serving Kitten Coffee (roasted in Bushwick, rainforest alliance certified, and yummy!). We have freshly baked scones, biscuits, and other treats, plus the comfy couch. Free wifi too.

  • Monica

    At Home/Made, in Red Hook, we just started opening for coffee in the morning!
    We’re open at 7am, serving Kitten Coffee (roasted in Bushwick, rainforest alliance certified, and yummy!). We have freshly baked scones, biscuits, and other treats, plus the comfy couch. Free wifi too.

  • Claiborne

    Hate to give away a good thing, but: sitting at The Blue Stove right now, and I think it just about tops this list. Too many aforementioned have too much ‘tude for my taste.

    • Multiphasic

      I love Blue Stove’s food, I love the atmosphere there and the bakers, but the one male barrista is such an unremitting dickhead that I go to Boneshakers instead.

      • Multiphasic

        I should qualify this by saying “the one male barrista circa Fall 2009,” so for all I know he’s gone. That place was generally so wonderful (I still have an evening pie there from time to time), I’d hate for it to lose business unnecessarily.

  • Claiborne

    Hate to give away a good thing, but: sitting at The Blue Stove right now, and I think it just about tops this list. Too many aforementioned have too much ‘tude for my taste.

    • Multiphasic

      I love Blue Stove’s food, I love the atmosphere there and the bakers, but the one male barrista is such an unremitting dickhead that I go to Boneshakers instead.

      • Multiphasic

        I should qualify this by saying “the one male barrista circa Fall 2009,” so for all I know he’s gone. That place was generally so wonderful (I still have an evening pie there from time to time), I’d hate for it to lose business unnecessarily.

  • Marcus

    Champion is the best, hands down, but I’m pretty sure that after they switched back to Vita after stupidStumptown, they switched and stuck to an Itallian company I cant remember, for shipping costs reasons. Good, but not as good as Vita. And so you cant buy lbs of Vita beans anymore. Sadness. Boneshakers good, yes, but too-cool baristas can be rude and also lame for not knowing what a large Americano would be. And there are irritating flies that wont leave you alone.

  • Marcus

    Champion is the best, hands down, but I’m pretty sure that after they switched back to Vita after stupidStumptown, they switched and stuck to an Itallian company I cant remember, for shipping costs reasons. Good, but not as good as Vita. And so you cant buy lbs of Vita beans anymore. Sadness. Boneshakers good, yes, but too-cool baristas can be rude and also lame for not knowing what a large Americano would be. And there are irritating flies that wont leave you alone.

  • IanX

    I think this is a great post. I hope people are considerate to the fact that these shops are businesses and not just “free office space.”

    If you’re going to hold down a seat for 5 hours, you need to be spending more than $3.75 on a coffee and tipping the employees more than 50 cents…. and be nice.

    WiFi signals drop. Everything’s amazing and no one’s happy. – Louie CK

  • IanX

    I think this is a great post. I hope people are considerate to the fact that these shops are businesses and not just “free office space.”

    If you’re going to hold down a seat for 5 hours, you need to be spending more than $3.75 on a coffee and tipping the employees more than 50 cents…. and be nice.

    WiFi signals drop. Everything’s amazing and no one’s happy. – Louie CK

  • Anonymous

    Milk and Roses, which is right next door to Champion, is the best cafe I have ever been to and I’ve worked at a bunch of them in Brooklyn. Their backyard is gorgeous, the staff is so so nice, and they are always baking something that smells delicious. Their coffee and tea is good too, and their linzer tarts are redonk.

  • ma

    The evolution of the “coffice” is organic but also extremely haphazard, although the need is real. Rent is extremely expensive, especially in NYC, and taking up square footage in a retail outlet for extended periods of time while paying nominal amounts of money is not going to support the financial health of any business. You may argue that most coffee shops do a lot of to go business which can deflect some of that cost but then a shop could technically just do “to go” only with very limited space and little or no seating so there would be no need to pay extra rent on a larger space. Restaurants rely on the model that they will turn their tables several times per night to make the necessary money to stay afloat. My question is, would those of you in need of a “coffice” be willing to pay a reasonable rental fee for the use of the space? If so, a coffee shop could write the “coffice” and all the necessaries for the comfort of “coffice workers” into a business plan and be compensated for doing so.

  • Anonymous

    Milk and Roses, which is right next door to Champion, is the best cafe I have ever been to and I’ve worked at a bunch of them in Brooklyn. Their backyard is gorgeous, the staff is so so nice, and they are always baking something that smells delicious. Their coffee and tea is good too, and their linzer tarts are redonk.

  • ma

    The evolution of the “coffice” is organic but also extremely haphazard, although the need is real. Rent is extremely expensive, especially in NYC, and taking up square footage in a retail outlet for extended periods of time while paying nominal amounts of money is not going to support the financial health of any business. You may argue that most coffee shops do a lot of to go business which can deflect some of that cost but then a shop could technically just do “to go” only with very limited space and little or no seating so there would be no need to pay extra rent on a larger space. Restaurants rely on the model that they will turn their tables several times per night to make the necessary money to stay afloat. My question is, would those of you in need of a “coffice” be willing to pay a reasonable rental fee for the use of the space? If so, a coffee shop could write the “coffice” and all the necessaries for the comfort of “coffice workers” into a business plan and be compensated for doing so.

  • Julia

    What about Prospect Heights/Crown Heights? Anyone have favorite coffices there?

  • Julia

    What about Prospect Heights/Crown Heights? Anyone have favorite coffices there?

    • katie

      Heights Coffee on Flatbush. Lots of seating, tasty sandwiches, good mix of cozy couches, big leather chairs, roundtable discussion areas, and small tables.

    • Katie

      Also, breukelen coffee shop on franklin is a great spot, though smaller than heights. But the guys that run this place are awesome!

      • Mak

        I second Breukelen. They have a lot of soy milk alternatives and a really fun, friendly and diverse staff. They deserve BB’s attention!

  • Julia

    What about Prospect Heights/Crown Heights? Anyone have favorite coffices there?

    • katie

      Heights Coffee on Flatbush. Lots of seating, tasty sandwiches, good mix of cozy couches, big leather chairs, roundtable discussion areas, and small tables.

    • Katie

      Also, breukelen coffee shop on franklin is a great spot, though smaller than heights. But the guys that run this place are awesome!

      • Mak

        I second Breukelen. They have a lot of soy milk alternatives and a really fun, friendly and diverse staff. They deserve BB’s attention!

  • http://twitter.com/OnTheIssues OnTheIssues

    Where is Cobble Hill/ Carroll Gardens?!!?

  • http://twitter.com/OnTheIssues OnTheIssues

    Where is Cobble Hill/ Carroll Gardens?!!?

  • skarl

    Great post! I have to agree that 2nd Stop Cafe is ideal for working but their attitude sucks. Even though they are really close to my apartment I avoid them. They also do a disservice to Stumptown Coffee. I’d love to drink Stumptown as I used to live in Portland, but just drink Gimmie because the baristas are superior in every way compared to 2nd Stop.

  • skarl

    Great post! I have to agree that 2nd Stop Cafe is ideal for working but their attitude sucks. Even though they are really close to my apartment I avoid them. They also do a disservice to Stumptown Coffee. I’d love to drink Stumptown as I used to live in Portland, but just drink Gimmie because the baristas are superior in every way compared to 2nd Stop.

  • http://twitter.com/OnTheIssues OnTheIssues

    What about Carroll Gardens/ Cobble Hill??

    • http://brooklynbased.net Nicole @ BB

      We didn’t skip those hoods out of spite, just out of lack of resources. We’d love any willing readers to rate their favorite coffices not on this list, using our criteria, and we’ll add them to the list. The submission email’s in this post: http://brooklynbased.net/blog/dude-wheres-my-coffice/

  • http://twitter.com/OnTheIssues OnTheIssues

    What about Carroll Gardens/ Cobble Hill??

    • http://brooklynbased.net Nicole @ BB

      We didn’t skip those hoods out of spite, just out of lack of resources. We’d love any willing readers to rate their favorite coffices not on this list, using our criteria, and we’ll add them to the list. The submission email’s in this post: http://brooklynbased.net/blog/dude-wheres-my-coffice/

  • Lainer252

    Second Stop should not be on this list. They have no A/C and it is always painfully hot and stuffy inside. This situation also makes their baristas the sweatiest coffee makers around.

    • katie

      Also, the baristas here have been incredibly rude to me 100% of the time, and they are always out of milk, sugar, et c.

  • Lainer252

    Second Stop should not be on this list. They have no A/C and it is always painfully hot and stuffy inside. This situation also makes their baristas the sweatiest coffee makers around.

    • katie

      Also, the baristas here have been incredibly rude to me 100% of the time, and they are always out of milk, sugar, et c.

  • http://www.twitter.com/thecoffice Sam Title

    So happy to see Brooklynites are embracing the coffice!

    As I mentioned in my response to Schott’s Vocab about the origins/use of the term “coffice”, people who use the coffice (“cofficers”) as their place of work come from all walks of life, industries, sectors and geographies (like Brooklyn!).

    The reasons for using a coffice tend to be just as diverse: a recently downsized worker who wants to conduct their job search in the company of others; a budding entrepreneur or small business owner who works while waiting to pick up his children after school; or maybe it’s an employee of a company that allows (and/or encourages) teleworking.

    The coffice is not a new phenomenon – it’s a growing one. It has a long history and its roots run quite deep. The increase in cafes/coffee shops and available technologies are helping that growth, but ultimately the coffice makes sense.

    While Jon Reiss’ maintains his criteria and reviews are by no means complete, it is undoubtedly a fantastic start. Adding readers’ preferences may be the foam on this latte.

    Sam Title
    Chief Executive Cofficer
    twitter.com/thecoffice

  • http://www.twitter.com/thecoffice Sam Title

    So happy to see Brooklynites are embracing the coffice!

    As I mentioned in my response to Schott’s Vocab about the origins/use of the term “coffice”, people who use the coffice (“cofficers”) as their place of work come from all walks of life, industries, sectors and geographies (like Brooklyn!).

    The reasons for using a coffice tend to be just as diverse: a recently downsized worker who wants to conduct their job search in the company of others; a budding entrepreneur or small business owner who works while waiting to pick up his children after school; or maybe it’s an employee of a company that allows (and/or encourages) teleworking.

    The coffice is not a new phenomenon – it’s a growing one. It has a long history and its roots run quite deep. The increase in cafes/coffee shops and available technologies are helping that growth, but ultimately the coffice makes sense.

    While Jon Reiss’ maintains his criteria and reviews are by no means complete, it is undoubtedly a fantastic start. Adding readers’ preferences may be the foam on this latte.

    Sam Title
    Chief Executive Cofficer
    twitter.com/thecoffice

  • Anonymous

    K-Dog & Dunebuggy, on Lincoln Road, in Prospect-Lefferts Gardens, should have been listed [assuming you deign to acknowledge PLG's existance :-) ].

  • Anonymous

    K-Dog & Dunebuggy, on Lincoln Road, in Prospect-Lefferts Gardens, should have been listed [assuming you deign to acknowledge PLG's existance :-) ].

  • former Archive fan

    New “coffice” in Bushwick: Three Angels by the Park. Lots of space & outlets, good strong wi-fi and excellent coffee (from Stone Street in Gowanus). Food needs a little work and the decor is bare-bones basic, but there is a patio out back and all the daily newspapers.

  • former Archive fan

    New “coffice” in Bushwick: Three Angels by the Park. Lots of space & outlets, good strong wi-fi and excellent coffee (from Stone Street in Gowanus). Food needs a little work and the decor is bare-bones basic, but there is a patio out back and all the daily newspapers.

  • Jon reiss

    I’d love to do a part two and I’d also like to go more in depth into the problem people sitting all day cutting into profitability. Especially in NYC, I don’t think coffices are going away anytime soon. I think there are unwritten rules about how much you need to spend if you’re sitting, then again, some days I can’t spend much and on others I’m a muffin eating machine.

    I will definitely be trying some of these recco’s in the days to come. When I find a new coffice that fits the bill it’s like Christmas time. I think i’ll try Blue Stove tomorrow.

  • Jon reiss

    I’d love to do a part two and I’d also like to go more in depth into the problem people sitting all day cutting into profitability. Especially in NYC, I don’t think coffices are going away anytime soon. I think there are unwritten rules about how much you need to spend if you’re sitting, then again, some days I can’t spend much and on others I’m a muffin eating machine.

    I will definitely be trying some of these recco’s in the days to come. When I find a new coffice that fits the bill it’s like Christmas time. I think i’ll try Blue Stove tomorrow.

  • Aias

    This person obviously knows very litttle about coffee. And I am quite surprised that no one responded to ma’s comments. This article is disappointing and makes me a little sad.

    • ThinkBroad

      None of the “coffice workers” want to admit the disservice they are doing to everyone else in the shop they are squatting in.

      New customers, hoping for a space to sit for maybe a half hour with their drink, can’t when a shop is full of people who are sitting with cups empty for hours. Some of these customers leave without a spot to sit, others become agitated, and ultimately do not tip or do not return. Shops can close because of this, baristas become upset at falling tips.

      If all these people were doing was making themselves look like cheapskates, I could care less, but they’re messing with other people’s days and making it hard to get by for shop owners that provide all of the amenities that have been provided free of charge.

      By something once an hour. At the very least. Better yet, if you need an office, get an office.

  • Aias

    This person obviously knows very litttle about coffee. And I am quite surprised that no one responded to ma’s comments. This article is disappointing and makes me a little sad.

    • ThinkBroad

      None of the “coffice workers” want to admit the disservice they are doing to everyone else in the shop they are squatting in.

      New customers, hoping for a space to sit for maybe a half hour with their drink, can’t when a shop is full of people who are sitting with cups empty for hours. Some of these customers leave without a spot to sit, others become agitated, and ultimately do not tip or do not return. Shops can close because of this, baristas become upset at falling tips.

      If all these people were doing was making themselves look like cheapskates, I could care less, but they’re messing with other people’s days and making it hard to get by for shop owners that provide all of the amenities that have been provided free of charge.

      By something once an hour. At the very least. Better yet, if you need an office, get an office.

  • wmcd33

    Missing Heights Coffee in Prospect Heights and Nero Doro in Clinton Hill.

  • wmcd33

    Missing Heights Coffee in Prospect Heights and Nero Doro in Clinton Hill.

  • Mirmkriegel

    Red Horse Cafe – 12th and 6th

    Vibe: 4 – people are nice, music at the right volume; friendly, no attitude

    Layout/Aesthetic: 3.5 – tad dark on a cloudy day, but good feng shui, faces tree-lined street

    Outlets: 1.5 – the only sucky thing about this place- besides the food. VERY few. And ha;f of those that exist are broken. They’d double their outlet score if they called a electrician and got those fixed.

    Wifi: 4.5

    Coffee: 4 – very good. In the summer, their signature iced coffee has coffee ice cubes

    Food (new category): 1 – consistently awful. Shame, everything else is pretty good for a coffice, outlet situation aside.

  • Mirmkriegel

    Red Horse Cafe – 12th and 6th

    Vibe: 4 – people are nice, music at the right volume; friendly, no attitude

    Layout/Aesthetic: 3.5 – tad dark on a cloudy day, but good feng shui, faces tree-lined street

    Outlets: 1.5 – the only sucky thing about this place- besides the food. VERY few. And ha;f of those that exist are broken. They’d double their outlet score if they called a electrician and got those fixed.

    Wifi: 4.5

    Coffee: 4 – very good. In the summer, their signature iced coffee has coffee ice cubes

    Food (new category): 1 – consistently awful. Shame, everything else is pretty good for a coffice, outlet situation aside.

  • Mylifeondvd

    I agree: Outpost in Clinton Hill should be added to this list!

  • Mylifeondvd

    I agree: Outpost in Clinton Hill should be added to this list!

  • Icedamericano

    Gialeti’s Cafe in the slope/Windsor terrace area. Amazing coffee & food, only 2 outlets, but that’s often enough on weekdays!

  • Icedamericano

    Gialeti’s Cafe in the slope/Windsor terrace area. Amazing coffee & food, only 2 outlets, but that’s often enough on weekdays!

  • Paul

    thats all you got for Park Slope/Prospect Heights? Really? No Tea Lounge? No Heights Coffee? No Ozzie’s?

    • matiasmaciel

      Absolutely right, Paul! You mentioned three of my favorites ones in the area. I would also add Joyce Bakery, and Sit & Wonder.

      Sorry, but the selection by BB is very poor.

  • Paul

    thats all you got for Park Slope/Prospect Heights? Really? No Tea Lounge? No Heights Coffee? No Ozzie’s?

    • matiasmaciel

      Absolutely right, Paul! You mentioned three of my favorites ones in the area. I would also add Joyce Bakery, and Sit & Wonder.

      Sorry, but the selection by BB is very poor.

  • http://www.heyexit.com/ Brendan Landis

    +1 for Little Skip’s in Bushwick (littleskips.com). Also Athom café is quite good, though very small (yelp.com/biz/athom-cafe-brooklyn).

  • http://www.heyexit.com/ Brendan Landis

    +1 for Little Skip’s in Bushwick (littleskips.com). Also Athom café is quite good, though very small (yelp.com/biz/athom-cafe-brooklyn).

  • http://www.heyexit.com/ Brendan Landis

    +1 for Little Skip’s in Bushwick (littleskips.com). Also Athom café is quite good, though very small (yelp.com/biz/athom-cafe-brooklyn).

  • AndyWarhorse

    You call this “Brooklyn”?

  • AndyWarhorse

    You call this “Brooklyn”?

  • commprof

    Park Slope has new Zora Space on 4th Ave (corner of 3rd street). Awesome pastries, free wi-fi and tables with outlets. And it’s an art gallery too – so you get a little culture while you’re at it….

  • commprof

    Park Slope has new Zora Space on 4th Ave (corner of 3rd street). Awesome pastries, free wi-fi and tables with outlets. And it’s an art gallery too – so you get a little culture while you’re at it….

  • Brooklynite

    Thank you – this is fantastic. But please add the neighborhood of Windsor Terrace.

  • Brooklynite

    Thank you – this is fantastic. But please add the neighborhood of Windsor Terrace.

  • ACP

    No Bed Stuy love? Ms. Dahlia’s is where it’s at.

  • ACP

    No Bed Stuy love? Ms. Dahlia’s is where it’s at.

  • Justy1245

    For any of you Brooklyners, that occasionally frequent the island, I encourage you to check out The Wix Lounge, a totally FREE work space, equipped with free wi-fi & coffee, desks, arm chairs and sofas, it’s pretty big and new too. Sponsored by wix.com, the online Flash web builder. The staff is really friendly too. http://www.wixlounge.com 10W 18th st. 2nd floor.

  • Justy1245

    For any of you Brooklyners, that occasionally frequent the island, I encourage you to check out The Wix Lounge, a totally FREE work space, equipped with free wi-fi & coffee, desks, arm chairs and sofas, it’s pretty big and new too. Sponsored by wix.com, the online Flash web builder. The staff is really friendly too. http://www.wixlounge.com 10W 18th st. 2nd floor.

  • Bastian

    Cafe Royal Brooklyn on Nassau!

  • dr rando

    At $4 a cup of joe in some spots – I feel like they’ll be Ok if I sit down for a few hours on my laptop. & the wifi is what probably brings in a lot of business, If I wasn’t gonna bring my laptop – I would make my own coffee.

  • CJ

    Steeplechase, in Kensington  
    http://www.steeplechasecoffee.com/

  • Kitten

    I’m so glad you noted the ATTITUDE problem at Second Stop. And the over-pricing. They have all the makings for a baller coffee shop but the people working there literally demolish it from being tops to being a total pain in the ass place to go.  

    Gimme! is the saving grace.  They are the sweetest people ever and the coffee is OUT of control delicious. Price = right.  

    Another great spot is called House of Small Wonder.
    There you are also serviced by sweet gems of people and the treats are homemade, in house. This place delights.  

  • ParkSloper

    Off the beaten path in Gowanus, Crop to Cup is worth the trek for nice space including great garden. http://www.croptocup.com/contact.php

  • Skirtfairy

    Dekalb Market, Joes Coffe! Fresh Air, a farm, a radio station, dj’s and now Jacques Torres!

  • MO

    Whisk in Ditmas park = large tables, fresh baked goods, free wifi,  friendly staff!

  • http://twitter.com/LucyP264 Lucy Pollack

    Brooklyn Roasting Company in Dumbo!!